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Note: What I am going to write here should not be considered a review. It is not since you need more time in order to write a review. These are just my practical observations on playing MY new Line 6 Variax 600 guitar. I don’t want to say that all Variax guitars behave the same, because frankly I don’t believe so. This is not a review of how it feels, I will not say here if the sound of Gibson models is close to the real Gibson model or anything like this, this is not the reason for this post. I started as a fan of Variax possibilities, I truly believe this is the way to go in the future and I do support this as much as possible. Read on…

Later edit: please read until the end because of a last moment phone call.

So, yesterday evening I have received my new guitar, a beautiful Variax 600, blue. I can tell you I have waited almost 3 weeks for this guitar to come here from UK so I didn’t have the chance to test it, I saw this particular guitar for the first time when I opened the box.

I opened it, took the guitar out, I am sorry I didn’t make a movie out of it, it should have been interesting, but I had no camera and no patience to wait anymore. The guitar is nice, I love the finish on the neck, natural wood color, I had no problems with the quality of details, playability, or general feeling of “cheap” as I have seen some people saying on the internet. Nothing in this direction, but hey, I get excited pretty fast and a new guitar can blind you in the first days from that point of view, right?

So, let’s test it to the rehearsal room!!

I plugged everything together, as you probably know if you are familiar with Variax guitars, you need 2 input lines in the PA, a guitar input, as usual, and a voice input, for the acoustic guitars. There is a foot switch that makes the…switch between the two lines. Done! Let’s see the baby in action!

First, a jazzbox model, because it was set there. I started to pick a few notes…surprise! I was picking a straight D major chord and the notes were…well, how to put it, not right! The notes on the G string sounded like having some kind of flanger or rotary effect, like in a wave, coming to me and then disappearing back! WTF?! I switched to an other model, then to an other one, then to an other one…

General result?

The Spank models, meaning the Stratocaster emulations, on all positions had big issues with G string from 2 points of view:

  • volume: the volume of the G string was lower than the volume of the B and D strings. Picking the notes in a chord gave me the impression that one string was not present there. Playing the same pattern on the 3 strings gave me the impression that somebody was having fun with the volume knob while on G string.
  • sensitivity: when picking B string or D string from as smooth as I could to hitting them hard, they sounded as they should, low in the first case and loud in the second case. Well, not the same situation with G string. When picking notes on G string easily, you can barely hear the notes, while when increasing the force applied on picking the same notes, the volume suddenly jumped, it was like having only 2 levels of volume on G string.

Gibson models gave me a beautiful sound for distortion, I was quite happy with how my guitar sounded on Gibson models through my BOSS processor…except at one moment when I had the sudden impression that I was tuned to some radio station, since my guitar suddenly started to make a hum-buzz-radio-like sound that scared me since the volume was high on the PA.

At one moment I had the surprise to see that a string just disappeared from the mix…it was not there anymore, WTF?!! As I have understood from somebody from the internet having similar problems, switch to an other guitar and then back to it. OK, I did and the string was there. That sounded too much like a reset on a computer. I know this guitar is a computer but come on…

On a 12 string guitar, the low G note on low E string was way too powerful, IMO, produced a strange resonance. Now, I can not be sure if this was real or just an impression caused by the particular room conditions, because the 12 string is produced by kind of an octaver or something. Now, this low G note may have been resonating with somebody else in the room, like the speaker or drums, or who knows, I can not tell for sure but the impression was that playing a F, G, A sequence, the G was louder and that was not good.

I had the impression of a strange behind-the-note effect in some cases, again on G string mostly, like picking the G string, hearing the clean G note and then behind it a long distorted but very low volume tail, like a low volume distortion. Strange. I can not tell you on what guitar because I have stopped looking at the models and focused more on how the particular notes sounded. Like I have never done with any other guitar, I have started to take every single fret and play it in order to see if sounds strange on some notes…

I also experience a strange noise on an acoustic model that was set on custom bank, so I just switched to custom bank and started to hear a noise like when the cable is broken and you move it around to have the two pieces in contact.

At that moment I was already mad with the fact that the guitar was not what I expected but what happened after this really put an end to it: I tried to save a model on the cutom bank following their procedure described in the book and that was the end of it, after this I wasn’t able to start the guitar anymore, nothing made any noise anymore, the guitar was dead!

I unplugged everything and called the guys at the company that sold me the guitar decided to ask my money back since I needed a reliable guitar, not a toy, but there was nobody there at that moment.

I called Silviu, my friend who owns one and told him about my experience with it and he somehow convinced me to give it another chance and have it fixed or replaced by the company instead of asking the money back. Also, I experienced a loud noise when pressing the foot switch and I was also mad at it because it can not be used on stage like this, imagine hearing a shot amplified as loud as possible every time you switch your guitar from acoustic to electric. He explained me, however, that this is normal and not a bug, you just need to turn of Phantom power on your mic line. Well, good to know…

I am going to call again the guys from the company to see how I can fix this and keep you posted.I expect a good feedback from the guys who sold me the guitar, I hope for the best and I hope to end up with a good, reliable guitar that can be played on stage.

By the way, I have also attached a few pictures with the guitar and yours truly!

variax guitar

me and the new Variax 600 modelling guitar

Later edit: I have managed to get the guys on the phone and they told me to cool down cause there is no problem, the guitar is actually a computer (of course) and needs a bit of “tuning” using their Workbench software so I should get back to them with the guitar, they will connect it to their computer and “re-tune” it, kind of how they do it with your car computer, when something goes wrong. Strange, very strange, but efficient, if it works. So, I am happy with this solution and probably tomorrow I will take a day off to go to Bucharest to tune my guitar. Damn!




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17 Responses to “Yesterday I received my new guitar. Today I will send it back!”

  1. Pribek
    July 30th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    That’s a drag, Ovidiu. Looks cool though. You know, back in the 90s I bought one of the first Line6 amps. Worked great for a couple of days then, it started to get wonky. I called the tech people and they advised a “hard reset”. I did that, and had no further problems. So, thinking about it like a computer is on the money I think.
    Hopefully the trip to Bucharest will be the end of it.
    Best of luck.

  2. Ovidiu
    July 30th, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    I hope too, Jack, because I just don’t want my money back, I want my guitar, reliable under any circumstances. They guy from the company who sold me the guitar seems pretty responsive and he told me that I should not worry, many of them need this kind of “tuning” just that they decided that they won’t open the box and tune it, but send it to me the way it came from UK, sealed. A nice initiative, unfortunately not very inspired…

    Looks cool, isn’t it? I love the wood color on the neck, I have always wanted a guitar with such a neck.

  3. Danel R. Lehrman
    July 30th, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    Ovidiu, what a bummer. I hope you get it fixed or replaced. It must be very frustrating. Your a technical person, give it a chance. Enjoy it.

  4. Ovidiu
    July 30th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    Yeah, it is very frustrating! But at the end of the day I was very convinced that I will return it that I didn’t even care anymore. Now it is frustrating again because I said to see how I can fix this. Or, well, how they can fix this, because I really like the sound of it.

  5. IG
    July 30th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    I suppose you have one more thing to add to your list of guitar set up activities: intonation, string height, truss rod adjustment, nut height, “computer reset.” Oh, the future.

    Hope it works out Ov. I like the color, dig the surfer blue and maple neck.

    Keep us posted, and post some playing samples when you get it back in good order!

    IG

  6. Ovidiu
    July 30th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    Ha, ha, I have never thought about this, well, yes, you may put it this way, a computer reset as a set up task ;-)

    I will add some samples, for sure, but I want to get a Line 6 KB 37 recording interface as well in order to record my guitar.

  7. Lance
    July 30th, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    I had a 700 model electric. You can reflash the guitar’s firmware but that won’t affect the problem you’re seeing. Your guitar has a bad bridge and you should get the guitar replaced….there’s no “computer tune up” that will fix it. They’re BSing you. It’s a lemon - record the serial number to be sure they actually replace it.

    BTW - I did eventually sell my 700 and the Pod XTLive board I was using with it (nice combination by the way). I found that many the sounds were good but a little too sterile when compared to my Les Pauls, teles, and strats.

    Some of the patches will still have a phasing problem even when the guitar is fixed. For example, the acoustic, 12-string, and reso models. They just bad. IMHO, the best patch on the guitar is the Gretsch patch played clean. The strat tones are OK - you’ll need to tweak them with the workbench for more output. As you saw, the Gibson tones are good. For heavy sounds, check out the Jazz guitars…they actually sound cool trough a distorted amp. Skip the alternate tunings…they also suffer from the weird sound artifacts and phasing issues.

    It’s a decent product…and the guitar really shines for digital recording. With no radio frequency noise and many tonal options, it’ll let you concentrate on the music.

  8. Ovidiu
    July 30th, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    Nice feedback, thanks, Lance! I will consider this when I will go to see them. Anyway, at this moment I have a more serious problem since I can’t manage to start the guitar in any possible way, doesn’t make any sound at all, so I presume something is seriously damaged. The thing is that it is also a bad timing, on Friday night I will leave in my scheduled holiday and I can not take care of this until I get back, in 10 days or more, I would have preferred to fix this issue now.

    Indeed, Gibson models sound nice. Interesting what you say with Jazz models for heavier sounds! The fact is that you don’t actually need ALL the models, so as long as I find 5-6 models that sound well for what I need, I don’t really care about ALL of them, but I wouldn’t feel right to know that I should never use some models because they sound out of tune or bad. At least they should have a decent sound, even if they don’t sound quite like the original model.

    But first thing first: fix the axe! Then I will put up a review about it, about sounds and details.

  9. matt Stevens
    July 30th, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    Nightmare man - horrible feeling when near gear fooks

  10. Ovidiu
    July 30th, 2008 at 8:43 pm

    Well, that is damn right! But I am full of hope since I did pay for it and I won’t ever stop until I will have it right! I am kind of stubborn, you know… ;-)

  11. Dr. J
    July 31st, 2008 at 2:32 am

    Best of luck, Ovidiu; –I know they’ll make things right for you (else we’ll send our covert operatives in and splice their genes)!!

  12. pilgrim
    July 31st, 2008 at 6:02 am

    While the idea of a guitar that can sound like several others is a cool idea–and hopefully yours will work–One thing I like about playing different guitars is not just the sound–but the feel. Playing a guitar with a different feel makes me play differently than I would play another guitar–and that helps develop my style and abilities–so even if I had a guitar that could sound like any other guitar–I would still play other guitars–at least for tha reason.

    Still–if it works–cool!

  13. Ovidiu
    July 31st, 2008 at 9:17 am

    @Dr J: Thanks for the support ;-) I am sure it will work out fine in the end, I don’t think anybody would want negative publicity on this site, right ? ;)

    @Pilgrim: Well, yes, but it also delivers other features such lack of noise,easiness of use. I know that playing a Gibson may give you a specific feeling and we should also count the image of it which may also contribute to the overall feeling, but hey, if it delivers the sound, it’s OK with me!

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  15. Sammy
    August 4th, 2008 at 5:29 am

    I’m late to this post, but good luck Ovidiu.

  16. Ovidiu
    August 4th, 2008 at 2:40 pm

    Thanks, Sammy! Today I will call to see what they tell me about it.

  17. pilgrim
    August 6th, 2008 at 4:33 am

    Like I said–cool.

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